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Vig2000
04-12-2013, 05:30 PM
I don't know if its the Faraday cage (a la MBII/U2), its hardcore 2000 meter water resistance rating, or its 45mm Trip-Tick stainless steel case, but I don't like the Bremont Supermarine 2000. That's because I love it! And as watch enthusiasts tend to do when they love a particular timepiece, they purchase it. So that's exactly what I did. I called my favorite authorized Bremont dealer, Dan at Timeless Watch Exchange (http://www.timelessluxwatches.com/), and proceeded to order this amazing watch from him. Dan is just a pleasure to deal with, and this is my third Bremont acquisition and fourth overall watch purchase from Timeless. I have owned a total of 5 Bremonts (I currently own three—the MBII/OR, ALT1-WT/BL, and now the SM2000—all of which I purchased from Timeless), and I have to say that the SM2000 hands down is my favorite Bremont of all (even more than my dearly departed P-51).

With that said, here are some of the highlights of the SM2000 that I found to be personally appealing, especially as compared with the SM2000's predecessor, the SM500.

Let me start off by saying that I am so glad that Bremont decided to make this a 45mm diver, a much improved upgrade over the 43mm SM500. I love a bigger watch, and the sweet spot for me is a 44-45mm piece, so Bremont hit the nail right on the head with this one. The SM2000 is truly built like a tank, but without being overbearing or unnecessary. The watch strikes a perfect utilitarian balance with incredibly attractive and pleasing aesthetics. In short, I can't stop looking at the dial. What you get, then, is a clean, legible dial with subtle, yet striking, red accents, which I particularly love. The red on the bezel, dial, and seconds hand helps perfectly enhance the SM2000's wrist presence and lovely aesthetics. The hands are especially clear and legible thanks to their classic design and copious amount of SuperLumiNova coating.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7383/16333296119_65a8f2368d_b.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/qTjpTM)

As compared to the SM500, let me start with the engraving on the back. On the back, we see a side view of the Supermarine plane. The side profile displayed on the SM2000 is much cleaner (and cooler) than the head-on, front view displayed on the caseback of the SM500.

SM500 caseback:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/16518609582_253e062dcd_b.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/raGc8u)

SM2000 caseback:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7330/15896997654_366d7695a6_b.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/qdLgys)

The SM500 gave us a 500 meter water resistance rating. We get more water resistance with the SM2000—in fact, a lot more water resistance. Achieving a 2000 meter water resistance rating while keeping the case thickness at a manageable size is design and overengineering at its best done in true Bremont form and fashion. Speaking of overengineering, you also get antimagnetic and anti-shock protection in the form of a Faraday cage and Bremont's protective patented anti-shock movement mount, respectively.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7441/16331862828_56aaa17f57_b.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/qTc4PS)

The SM2000 still carries the sapphire crystal inlay around the bezel as found on the SM500, making the bezel highly scratch resistant.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/16331862588_34da92a36e_b.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/qTc4KJ)

The lume is strong and long-lasting, and helps enhance the SM2000's legibility even when not activated. The bezel, dial markers, and seconds hand are lumed bluish/green.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8585/15899404803_e68c287481_b.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/qdYB82)

The SM2000 uses the same very comfortable, durable, and excellent quality rubber strap as found on the SM500. The strap wraps and hugs perfectly around my 6.75 inch wrist, and complements this watch incredibly well. On wrist, the watch is comfortable and stays in place, even with excessive hand/wrist movement.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8569/16333663877_d03f5722d9_b.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/qTmidr)

Talk about watch porn; here is the obligatory wrist shot:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7458/15896997574_642d19a25b_b.jpg (http://flic.kr/p/qdLgx5)

I absolutely love this new SM2000, and I highly recommend it either as an upgrade from the SM500 or as a formidable diver watch that can easily stand up against the competition. For those that are considering other brands, take a look at the SM2000. You will not be sorry with your purchase. Bremont has truly outdone themselves this time. They pushed the limits and created a tool timepiece with both style and substance, especially in a watch world in which many other brands have either one or the other (or none at all). The SM2000 is a keeper, and it's a timepiece that makes me smile everytime I look at it to see what time it is.

Bremont SM2000 Specifications​:

MOVEMENT
Modified calibre 13 1/4” BE-36AE automatic chronometer, 25 jewels, glucydur balance. Anachron balance spring, Nivaflex 1 mainspring, 28,800 bph, 38 hour power reserve, Bremont moulded and skeletised decorated rotor.

FUNCTIONS
Hour/minute/second, date and day at 3H.

CASE
Stainless steel case with sapphire uni-directional rotating bezel. Case diameter 45mm, lug width 22mm. Inner soft iron anti-magnetic Faraday cage to protect movement. Protective patented anti-shock movement mount.

CASE BACK
Stainless steel screw-in and decorated case back.

BEZEL
Sapphire uni-directional rotating bezel with SuperLumiNova luminous coating.

DIAL
Metal dial with various ground colours and applied indexes. SuperLumiNova coated indexes and hands.

CRYSTAL
Domed anti-reflective, scratch resistant sapphire crystal.

WATER RESISTANCE
Water resistant to 200 ATM, 2000 metres.

RATINGS
C.O.S.C chronometer tested.

STRAP/BRACELET
Integrated rubber strap or stainless steel bracelet.

CERTIFICATION
Individually serial numbered with accompanying C.O.S.C certification.

chipbutty55
04-12-2013, 05:45 PM
Great review on a stunning piece! I have been contemplating one of these but was a bit concerned it may look too much on my pathetic wrists....
May I ask how big yours is ;) (Wrist that is)...

Vig2000
04-12-2013, 05:52 PM
Great review on a stunning piece! I have been contemplating one of these but was a bit concerned it may look too much on my pathetic wrists....
May I ask how big yours is ;) (Wrist that is)...

Thanks! My wrist measures 6.75 inches. Maybe you can take a trip to your local AD and try it on.

rich
04-12-2013, 05:52 PM
Lovely watch and great review. Thanks for posting.

aikiman44
04-12-2013, 06:54 PM
Congratulations on acquiring that lovely beast!
It really is quite wearable. My wrist is 6.5" and had no trouble sporting the S2000.

chipbutty55
04-12-2013, 07:01 PM
Congratulations on acquiring that lovely beast!
It really is quite wearable. My wrist is 6.5" and had no trouble sporting the S2000.

Thanks for that, good to know!

turbohobbit
04-13-2013, 09:10 AM
That really is quite a piece!! Well done!

MikePearson6
04-13-2013, 06:38 PM
Brilliant review.
Dan was one of the first Independant retailers that I brought on board when I first joined Bremont. Great to hear how happy you are with the watch and Timeless!!!

Enjoy.

Mike

Vig2000
04-13-2013, 06:44 PM
Brilliant review.
Dan was one of the first Independant retailers that I brought on board when I first joined Bremont. Great to hear how happy you are with the watch and Timeless!!!

Enjoy.

Mike

Thanks, Mike. Yes, I'm more than pleased with the watch, and Dan/Timeless are great. I met you and Nick when both of you were in New York this past February for the S2000 tour. I'm glad I did, as seeing and handling the watch in person made me decide to purchase it!

KathleenBurnett
05-06-2013, 06:32 AM
2000 m water ressistant.that is unbelievably insane. I mean this watch is built to remain underwaters. EVen the most popular watch makers dont make watches which last more than 500 meters in the water. That is really pathbreaking.

Nikkicourtney
05-06-2013, 05:40 PM
Well, not to split hairs, but my deepsea is 3900m;)

Vig2000
05-06-2013, 09:03 PM
Since we're going depth crazy here, the Sinn UX is officially rated at 5000 meters (and unofficially at a whopping 10000 meters)!

liam1288
06-07-2013, 05:04 PM
Of anyone has tried an s2000 on before did you experience the same problem with the rubber strap not being so flush with the lugs?
Eg when it's bent, there is a gap between the strap and case an the strap isn't flush with the top of the lugs opposed to the 500.

Vig2000
06-07-2013, 05:17 PM
Of anyone has tried an s2000 on before did you experience the same problem with the rubber strap not being so flush with the lugs?
Eg when it's bent, there is a gap between the strap and case an the strap isn't flush with the top of the lugs opposed to the 500.

Nope, I've never experienced that with my SM2000. The strap is in perfect alignment with the case, even when it's bent. It's flush with the lugs and there is no gap between the strap and case. It seems to me that the spring bars on SM2000 are thicker and sturdier than those on the SM500, so that may be why I don't experience this problem on the 2000.

Andyg156
06-07-2013, 05:49 PM
I have a very slight gap when fitted on my solo when over bent, but nothing of note unless scrutinising for faults. I'm happy with fit on Solo.

liam1288
06-07-2013, 11:02 PM
I was in Berrys in Leeds, I really didnt like the gap between the case and strap plus the ridge at the top of the lugs a want flush.
It was enough to put me off. The guy at Berrys, rang Bremont and apparently it was what they are working on

liam1288
06-08-2013, 09:43 AM
Could you send some pics of yours? I was hoping it was a one off with the strap not aligning up

Sorry, that was meant to ask vig2000

Gilbert
06-11-2013, 11:51 AM
That watch from the Bremont looks fabulous out there..it has all the features that a sophisticated watch should have. The watch out here is stunning..lucky chap you out there to get hands on this amazing watch.

Vig2000
06-12-2013, 08:09 AM
Could you send some pics of yours? I was hoping it was a one off with the strap not aligning up

Sorry, that was meant to ask vig2000

Sure, here you go:

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2871/9021865497_dbcdab4985_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vigilance2000/9021865497/)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2858/9024091926_a867e3f3ac_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vigilance2000/9024091926/)

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3823/9024091660_8e7499a4b2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/vigilance2000/9024091660/)



That watch from the Bremont looks fabulous out there..it has all the features that a sophisticated watch should have. The watch out here is stunning..lucky chap you out there to get hands on this amazing watch.

Glad you like it; it's truly a great watch!

Gilbert
06-14-2013, 04:41 AM
I guess some more pics will work on this thread..this watch is really great man..this is the third 5th time i am looking at it and thinking of buying it.

liam1288
06-18-2013, 08:36 PM
Just thought I'd add a pic ;)

Vig2000
06-18-2013, 08:42 PM
Just thought I'd add a pic ;)

Welcome to the club!

Gilbert
06-19-2013, 10:47 AM
Welcome to the forum..have a great time out here...

Bullettrain
02-12-2015, 05:37 PM
Reviving this thread, as I really admire this watch. Yesterday I recieved my first Bremont, S500 Blk/Blk. My AD talked me out of purchasing the S2000, as he feels that it's oversized for most people, and that big watches are dated. I've had the S500 for one day, and I'm real close to sending it back in exchange for the S2000. I love the subtle red accents, reshaped seconds counter, brighter lume, etc.

Any thoughts?

jwalker9
02-12-2015, 06:26 PM
To be perfectly honest, I like the red details and hand changes on the S2000 better, and the 2mm difference in size was almost negligible when trying them on. The deal breaker for me was the single color option (black) for the S2000...I really wanted a blue diver! Since there is no blue S2000 option, I chose the blue S500 and have been very happy. However, if you can already tell that the S2000 is what you REALLY wanted, by all means, go and correct the situation!

Bullettrain
02-12-2015, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the input, much appreciated. I believe I'll call him and order up the S2000. I was most concerned with the size, but as you said, it's negligible...good enough for me. And again, I really like how the few red accents make the dial more visually interesting...IMO.

The blue S500 looks fantastic, nice choice!

chipbutty55
02-12-2015, 08:12 PM
Cant go wrong with either in my opinion but it sounds pretty clear which you would prefer and it seems a waste and a shame to stare at your wrist and dream of another.....!!

One other point, is that the the S2000 may have slightly bigger case size, but does seem to carry the depth of the watch a bit better with it being that little bit wider. More balanced, some might say! Maybe why it doesn't look much different on your wrist??!!

Whatever you end up with, don't regret it and enjoy!!!

Bullettrain
02-12-2015, 11:31 PM
Thanks for the input, I appreciate all that I can get, as I have yet to call my AD.

The S500 looks bigger on my wrist than it actually is. I purchased a leather strap as well as the bracelet, so I have a pretty versatile watch.

On one hand it seems nuts to spend another $500 for the S2000. I'm wrestling over aesthetics, a slight increase in case diameter (most concerned about it looking like a salad plate on my wrist, but it's only another 2mm), and an increase of 1500m in depth resistance....this thing will never touch water....but it makes me smile. And at the end of the day, I like to have a smile on my face.

Sunray02
02-13-2015, 02:47 PM
To be perfectly honest, I like the red details and hand changes on the S2000 better, and the 2mm difference in size was almost negligible when trying them on. The deal breaker for me was the single color option (black) for the S2000...I really wanted a blue diver! Since there is no blue S2000 option, I chose the blue S500 and have been very happy. However, if you can already tell that the S2000 is what you REALLY wanted, by all means, go and correct the situation!

I too like the blue S500 but now have to admit I have the wobbles - fallen in love with the new Tudor Black Bay in it's blue iteration.

Gavin

jwalker9
02-13-2015, 02:57 PM
They are both nice blue options. Have you tried in the Black Bay, Gavin?

I visited my local Tudor AD after the blue version launched to check them out in person. While I went into the visit quite impressed with the watch, I wasn't crazy about how it looked and felt in person. It's case stood out to me as quite bland, particularly the side and back of the case. Not much shape to it, just sort of a block.

When I wound the watch, and manipulated those cool snowflake hands, the dial just left me wanting a little more.

All in all, I walked out of the store less impressed with the model than when I walked in, but that's just my take. I LOVE the blue color option. And I love what Carl at GGB is doing with making matching straps and buckles for the Black Bay! They sell pretty well from what I can gather. But side by side, I find the S500 to be a more interesting watch.

Jeep99dad has an amazing vintage Tudor sub in blue that just looks incredible. I'd pick one of those over the Black Bay given the choice!

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/13/a1341cd9a48c4d2d8ab718eff7a6325f.jpg




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Sunray02
02-13-2015, 03:04 PM
No Jeremy, I have not tried it out in the flesh so to speak, interested in your comments though. I have to agree that the Tudor Prince Oysterdate does look quite magnificent!!

Gavin

Vig2000
02-13-2015, 04:15 PM
I've restored the pictures in the OP to help you make a decision!

jwalker9
02-13-2015, 04:31 PM
Here is a picture of both watches on my smallish wrist while trying to decide between the two!

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/13/3ad64ab7bd2b1b768fa17ecbbeedba5b.jpg


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Bullettrain
02-13-2015, 07:58 PM
First of all, thanks for restoring your pictures, any and all photos are extremely helpful. It's a beautiful watch, nice detail in the photos. I looked at many photos last night, and watched a couple good video reviews this morning.

And thanks to you jwalker for the comparison photo, the size difference is nearly imperceptible, big help! I had the S500 on my wrist next to my 40mm TAG, the difference in size is noticeable, but not dramatic. By the way, your blue S500 is a stunning watch, love to see one in person.

That's the main difficulty in this, I'm five hours from the nearest AD, so seeing one in person is not an easy task. Fortunately my AD is very understanding, as I just spoke with him about my dilemma. After much contemplation, I've decided to return my two day old S500, he is sending me a return label, and ordering a new S2000 for me.

Thanks all for your insight, wisdom, thoughts, and the photos!

jwalker9
02-13-2015, 08:34 PM
Sounds great! It's good to have an AD that will work with you like this! Do let us know when the S200 arrives, and post a few pictures when it does!

BTW: you will need new S2000 end links for your bracelet! They are fairly easy to switch out with micro screw drivers.

Bullettrain
02-13-2015, 09:02 PM
Thanks, I will post a few pics of it on both straps, and the bracelet when it arrives.

Good to know. Do I understand correctly that the bracelet end links for the S500 are different from the S2000 end links?

jwalker9
02-13-2015, 09:24 PM
Thanks, I will post a few pics of it on both straps, and the bracelet when it arrives.

Good to know. Do I understand correctly that the bracelet end links for the S500 are different from the S2000 end links?

Correct. The S500 end links on your current bracelet will not fit perfectly to the lugs of your S2000. Thus, you'll need to tell your AD that you need either the S2000 end links sent to you so that you can switch them yourself, or you can just exchange the whole bracelet for one already fitted for the S2000. You won't be needing the S500 end links any longer, so I imagine they could do an even swap?

Vig2000
02-13-2015, 09:39 PM
First of all, thanks for restoring your pictures, any and all photos are extremely helpful. It's a beautiful watch, nice detail in the photos. I looked at many photos last night, and watched a couple good video reviews this morning.

And thanks to you jwalker for the comparison photo, the size difference is nearly imperceptible, big help! I had the S500 on my wrist next to my 40mm TAG, the difference in size is noticeable, but not dramatic. By the way, your blue S500 is a stunning watch, love to see one in person.

That's the main difficulty in this, I'm five hours from the nearest AD, so seeing one in person is not an easy task. Fortunately my AD is very understanding, as I just spoke with him about my dilemma. After much contemplation, I've decided to return my two day old S500, he is sending me a return label, and ordering a new S2000 for me.

Thanks all for your insight, wisdom, thoughts, and the photos!

No problem and congrats on your new S2000; it's definitely a great piece. Just so you know, as a result of the added water resistance that the S2000 carries, the watch is also slightly thicker than the 500. I personally found its thickness to be manageable when I owned it, but that is something you should nevertheless be aware of. You can't go wrong with either piece, and I'm sure you'll love it once it arrives.

Bullettrain
02-13-2015, 09:54 PM
Correct. The S500 end links on your current bracelet will not fit perfectly to the lugs of your S2000. Thus, you'll need to tell your AD that you need either the S2000 end links sent to you so that you can switch them yourself, or you can just exchange the whole bracelet for one already fitted for the S2000. You won't be needing the S500 end links any longer, so I imagine they could do an even swap?

Thanks for the heads up, just talked to my AD, and he is going to make sure Bremont includes the correct end links for the bracelet.

Bullettrain
02-13-2015, 10:00 PM
No problem and congrats on your new S2000; it's definitely a great piece. Just so you know, as a result of the added water resistance that the S2000 carries, the watch is also slightly thicker than the 500. I personally found its thickness to be manageable when I owned it, but that is something you should nevertheless be aware of. You can't wrong with either piece, and I'm sure you'll love it once it arrives.


I was not aware of the added thickness, but I'm assuming (hopefully) it's in proportion with the increased diameter. Speaking of thickness, I've been trying to find the case depth specs for all Bremont's, and haven't found anything. Are they listed anywhere? If nothing else, I'd at least like to know the depth of the S500 & S2000. Should have measured mine, but it was just picked up by UPS.

Thanks

jwalker9
02-13-2015, 10:08 PM
It may be just a tad thicker, but it actually sits on the wrist better because of the added case diameter. Again, in measurement terms, theres a slight difference, but on the wrist its rather negligible.

Bullettrain
02-13-2015, 10:17 PM
Okay thanks, good to know. Sounds well balanced given the size.
Does Bremont list the specs anywhere? Nothing on the website, not a big deal, just curious what the actual case depth is, most manufacturers list that info.

jwalker9
02-13-2015, 10:43 PM
Apologies, can't help you there as I don't see this info listed anywhere either.

vipereaper30
02-13-2015, 10:50 PM
Question for you Jeremy or anyone else that has seen/tried both the 500 and 2000, if the S2000 had the same design features & color options as the S500 which size would you prefer?

jwalker9
02-13-2015, 11:15 PM
So youre asking, if they were both 2000m certified, both had same same hand details, red accents, lume, etc, would I choose a 43mm or a 45mm version? Good question! I wanted to immediately answer 45mm because it's slightly better proportioned as a whole, but with my wrist size, I still think the 43mm works better for me. I just like all of the details on the 45mm version better, aside from the absence of blue!

Nota bene: when I was trying these two on, the blue S500 had not yet been updated to include the new Bremont logo, crown, or "London" branding; all things that I wanted. By the time I finally pulled the trigger, these details had been updated, which I was very happy about!

Vig2000
02-13-2015, 11:25 PM
Okay thanks, good to know. Sounds well balanced given the size.
Does Bremont list the specs anywhere? Nothing on the website, not a big deal, just curious what the actual case depth is, most manufacturers list that info.

Jack Ryan's website lists the thickness of Bremont models. The site lists the S2000 (http://www.jackryanjewelry.com/shop/bremont/supermarine-2000/) as 17mm thick, and the S500 (http://www.jackryanjewelry.com/shop/bremont/supermarine-500-2/) at 16.5mm thick.


Question for you Jeremy or anyone else that has seen/tried both the 500 and 2000, if the S2000 had the same design features & color options as the S500 which size would you prefer?

Even with the S2000 having the same design features and color options as the S500, I would prefer the S500 in blue. I like the slimmer profile of the S500 as compared to the slightly more bulky S2000. This is despite the fact I wrote in my review that I prefer watches in the 44-45mm range. Well, my tastes have changed since then, and like many other WIS, I reserve the right to change my mind :) Also, I think the S2000's dial has a bit too much open real estate, making the watch look bigger than it is, whereas the S500 has the perfect amount of proportional dial space. Usually many watches face the problem of a cluttered dial, but the S2000 suffers from the opposite problem.

Bullettrain
02-14-2015, 03:19 AM
Thanks for the link to Jack Ryan, all the info I've been searching for. ��

Bullettrain
03-19-2015, 02:48 AM
It finally arrived just today! I am very happy I got the S2000, I love the subtle red accents, the seconds counter with red tip that hovers over the inner track ring, and so on...I couldn't be happier with this watch! I've attached photos of the red stitched strap on deployant clasp, and the white stitched strap with tang buckle. I also purchased a bracelet, but I'm not yet brave enough to attempt attaching it yet.

I think the white stitched strap is a bit more formal, and the red strap gives it a sportier appearance. Anyway, I'm ecstatic with my new Bremont, the attention to detail is quite admirable.

Bullettrain
03-19-2015, 02:57 AM
And some photos of the white strap...

Vig2000
03-19-2015, 02:57 AM
Congrats, it looks great. I love the black strap with the red stitching; it matches the watch perfectly. It's fantastic piece, so enjoy it in good health!


It finally arrived just today! I am very happy I got the S2000, I love the subtle red accents, the seconds counter with red tip that hovers over the inner track ring, and so on...I couldn't be happier with this watch! I've attached photos of the red stitched strap on deployant clasp, and the white stitched strap with tang buckle. I also purchased a bracelet, but I'm not yet brave enough to attempt attaching it yet.

I think the white stitched strap is a bit more formal, and the red strap gives it a sportier appearance. Anyway, I'm ecstatic with my new Bremont, the attention to detail is quite admirable.

Bullettrain
03-20-2015, 09:01 PM
A better natural light photo of the red stitched strap...I'm so happy I purchased this watch!

Great_mazinger
03-26-2015, 11:33 PM
Mine says hello. Congrats!
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb387/Timemaster007/image.jpg2_3.jpg

Bullettrain
03-27-2015, 04:51 AM
Yours looks great on the bracelet! I purchased one as well, but needs to be sized. I'm impressed how well it wears for a large, thick watch.